Why does WRF-simulated TSK show very little temporal variation over sea ice along the MOSAiC trajectory?

Yuhao

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Dear WRF support team,

I am running WRF simulations over the Arctic for the period from 2020-06-01 00:00 UTC to 2020-07-29 23:00 UTC. My analysis focuses on the MOSAiC observation trajectory, which was located over sea ice during this period.
I extracted SST and TSK from the WRF output by nearest-neighbor matching the d02 wrfout fields to the hourly MOSAiC observation locations. The MOSAiC expedition was a drifting observational campaign based on a research vessel frozen into Arctic sea ice, so the observation sites were located on and moved with the sea ice. After interpolation to the MOSAiC trajectory, I found that both SST and TSK show very little temporal variation. They are almost flat time series.

I understand now why SST is nearly constant. I checked the ERA5 initial/metgrid fields using the same nearest-neighbor matching method along the MOSAiC trajectory. The SST in the ERA5/met_em fields is already nearly constant at the MOSAiC locations, likely because the observation points are located over sea ice.

However, I am confused about TSK. In the ERA5/met_em fields, SKINTEMP/TSK along the MOSAiC trajectory shows clear temporal variation. But in the WRF output, TSK shows only very small variation and is almost constant, similar to SST. Therefore, I am trying to understand why the time-varying SKINTEMP information in the input/met_em fields does not appear as similar temporal variation in wrfout TSK over sea ice.

My questions are:
1. In WRF, how is TSK treated over sea ice? Is it predicted by the surface scheme/sea-ice treatment, constrained by SST, initialized from SKINTEMP only, or updated during the simulation?
2. Is it expected that WRF TSK has very small temporal variation at sea-ice-covered grid points?
3. Could this phenomenon be related to the fact that the MOSAiC trajectory is located over sea ice?

For reference, I will also attach the following materials:

  • Figure 1: The WRF simulation domain and the corresponding MOSAiC trajectory during the study period.
  • wps_show_dom.png
  • Figure 2: Time series of SST and TSK along the MOSAiC trajectory from PolarWRF, WRF, ERA5 (using the same nearest-neighbor matching method), together with the MOSAiC observations.
  • Obs_WRF_PolarWRF_ERA5_SST_TSK_TimeSeries.png
  • My WRF namelist configuration file.
 
Hi, Can you let me know which version of WRF you're using, and whether you've made any modifications to the code? Thanks!
 
Hi, Can you let me know which version of WRF you're using, and whether you've made any modifications to the code? Thanks!
Dear kwerner,

I am using WRF and Polar-WRF version 4.3.3, and I have not made any modifications to the source code.

Thanks!

 
I've tested a sea-ice case using wrfv4.3.3 and am not having the same issue. TSK changes over time, per ncview of the wrfout files. Unfortunately we don't support Polar-WRF in our group, so if you're using polar wrf, perhaps try contacting someone in their group: https://polarmet.osu.edu/PWRF/

If you're also seeing the issue with just basic WRF, then I'd like to test out your case. Please provide the met_em* files you're using, along with the most recent namelist.input file and namelist.wps. The met_em* files will likely be too large to attach here, so see the forum's home page for instructions on sharing large files.

Just to note, I'll be out of the office for the next couple of weeks and I won't be able to look into this until my return.
 
I've tested a sea-ice case using wrfv4.3.3 and am not having the same issue. TSK changes over time, per ncview of the wrfout files. Unfortunately we don't support Polar-WRF in our group, so if you're using polar wrf, perhaps try contacting someone in their group: https://polarmet.osu.edu/PWRF/

If you're also seeing the issue with just basic WRF, then I'd like to test out your case. Please provide the met_em* files you're using, along with the most recent namelist.input file and namelist.wps. The met_em* files will likely be too large to attach here, so see the forum's home page for instructions on sharing large files.

Just to note, I'll be out of the office for the next couple of weeks and I won't be able to look into this until my return.
Hello kwerner,

Sorry for the delayed response. I have been quite busy recently and forgot to reply.

I also encountered the same behavior in basic WRF. I tested different WRF versions, as well as WRF installations on different servers, but this behavior did not disappear. TSK still shows very little temporal variation at the MOSAiC observation location over sea ice.

I will upload the met_em* files to the forum’s file-sharing/staging area. Please note that the met_em* files I provide will cover only a short segment of the full simulation period, specifically from 2020-05-31 12:00 UTC to 2020-06-09 00:00 UTC. Besides, I will include the hourly MOSAiC trajectory file for the corresponding period in the same compressed package with the met_em* files. The compressed file in Box storage is named met_em_and_mosaic_route.tar. I will attach the latest namelist.input and namelist.wps directly in this forum reply.

If possible, you could interpolate the simulated results from wrfout to the MOSAiC trajectory points using a nearest-neighbor method to verify this behavior. Alternatively, if it is more convenient, you could also package the simulated wrfout files and send them to me, and I can perform the trajectory-point comparison on my side.

Thank you again for your help.
 

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