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WRF ideal cases - modifiy ZNT

Joran

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Hello,

I would like to run WRF with an ideal case configuration (em_les) with the MYNN PBL scheme. I've tried changing this variable in the phys/module_physics_init.F file and then recompiling but nothing changes.

Here is my namelist.input.
Can you help me?
Thanks in advance!

Joran
 

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Hi Joran,
1) When you run the case with MYNN PBL turned on in the namelist, and then without MYNN PBL, do you see a difference?
2) Specifically, which variable are you changing in module_physics_init.F? Can you attach the file you modified?
3) Which version of WRF are you running?
 
Hi Joran,
1) When you run the case with MYNN PBL turned on in the namelist, and then without MYNN PBL, do you see a difference?
2) Specifically, which variable are you changing in module_physics_init.F? Can you attach the file you modified?
3) Which version of WRF are you running?

Hello,
I've just tried to run a simulation without MYNN PBL. The ZNT values are slightly different but do not correspond to what I want. The Z0 values remain the same.
The WRF version is v4.6.1.
Here is the module_physics_init.F file. I have modified the ZZWTR and ZZLND values (lines 1074-1075).
 

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Hi,
Thanks for the response. I just tested this, using wrfv4.6.1, your namelist.input file, and your modified module_physics_init.F file. I ran a test with the default code, and then the exact same test with the modified code, and I am actually seeing some very minor differences in the ZNT value between output files at the same time, in the same i,j grid - both at the initial time (which shows values of 0.0001, compared to 0.0006), and one hour into the simulation. See the screenshots.
 

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Hi,
Thanks for the response. I just tested this, using wrfv4.6.1, your namelist.input file, and your modified module_physics_init.F file. I ran a test with the default code, and then the exact same test with the modified code, and I am actually seeing some very minor differences in the ZNT value between output files at the same time, in the same i,j grid - both at the initial time (which shows values of 0.0001, compared to 0.0006), and one hour into the simulation. See the screenshots.
Hello,
Thank you for your reply.

I made the same observation but the difference after one hour is very small. I would like to have a ZNT of about 0.006 for the whole time step. Is it possible to force WRF to adopt this behaviour?
 
I spoke to a physics specialist colleague who said that the "ZZ*" variables are not actually used. You have to go into LANDUSE.TBL and look for the LW12 landuse section and edit SFZ0 there. The units are in cm. The default XLAND = 1 for land. If you want water, use the namelist for the "shalconv" LES case for guidance.
 
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